tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post4434337037406605910..comments2023-11-05T01:14:14.295-07:00Comments on The Real Estalker: Let's Talk About Paul Allen...Again, Shall We?Your Mamahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14600002907755148264noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-783524812092204972014-02-20T09:16:57.554-08:002014-02-20T09:16:57.554-08:00A Rembrance for Enchanted Hill and the brilliant K...A Rembrance for Enchanted Hill and the brilliant Kollsman<br />Saturday Feb. 22 1:30pm Will Rogers Beverly Hills Memorial Park. Two gems. And the reality. Example:<br />The American Paul Kollsman, ..."he spent some time in England at the Basingstoke plant, which was running up to full production in 1938-39, 24 hours a day, in preparation for the coming war" ...designing aeronautical instruments for the entire Commonwealth Royal Air Force, USArmy Ari Corp and every Link Trainer for almost 100% of all pilots including all Candian pilots!<br />He was sharp to buy Enchanted Hill. Sad the second widow, evil wife Eva, did knock him dead.<br />Ask Angela Lansbury she knows!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-40002212310994700012013-11-27T09:57:12.235-08:002013-11-27T09:57:12.235-08:00Unfortunately, you are unaware of the facts howeve...Unfortunately, you are unaware of the facts however cleverly they were disguised. I speak from the very closest confidants of Kollsman, one of whom was with him since Oyster Bay days and was <br />summarily silenced by Eva<br />but not forever. The truth still lives beyond the unquiet graves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-34883459245039922032012-10-16T21:31:29.726-07:002012-10-16T21:31:29.726-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15015926366692688504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-84746372788209161432011-11-21T20:12:43.705-08:002011-11-21T20:12:43.705-08:00Hmmm....Very interesting comments from everyone re...Hmmm....Very interesting comments from everyone regarding the Enchanted Hill property. I am intrigued and interested to know who would call Eva a black widow...and why, since Paul had long since been widowed when they married? <br />The property was indeed cared for, while it was vacant, by a caretaker that lived on the property. The property was always looked after, always loved and Eva was too heart-broken to return once Paul passed away. <br />Those who are drawing conclusions on rumors or supposition, well... ?? What I know, I know first hand. You??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-85601041796593881682011-07-25T04:57:48.267-07:002011-07-25T04:57:48.267-07:00I was shocked when I read that Mr Allen demolished...I was shocked when I read that Mr Allen demolished “The Enchanted Hill” after purchasing it for over $16 million dollars. What a missed opportunity for Mr Allen to leave a legacy of fantastical early 20 century southern Californian architecture to future generations.<br />I believe that the property was vacant for a number of years on two occasions during its 70+ year life time. Apparently Mr Barns walked away from the property shortly after he and his wife purchased it from Francis Marion for about $540,000 in early 1929. Like many business men he lost his fortune after “the great crash”<br />Then after Mr Kollsmans passing it stood vacant again for a number of years before Mr Allen bought it from the Kollsman estate.<br /> I’m guessing that the property was fairly well protected during its vacant years, otherwise it could have experienced the same fate as another fine example of the fantastic properties build on the back of the booming Film Industry:- The Garden Court Apartments on Hollywood Boulevard done to death by the ‘underclass’ in the late 70’s.<br />Anyway, if you want to see “The Enchanted Hill” in all its glory, purchase a copy of Columbo episode “Identity Crisis” Great footage of the Long driveway leading up from Angelo, the court yard, the swimming pool, the Thomson / Kollsman study, the main living room and a great Birdseye view from a helicopter of the Main house and court yard with a glimpse of what was in Fred & Francis’s time The Stable Hands quarters (a substantial property in itself)<br />For further reading on this gifted couple as another poster advised: Without lying down by Cari Beauchamp, More Than a Cowboy by E M Wyatt, both books are available for purchase on the internet at very reasonable prices.<br />“Off with their Heads” by the lady herself. This book is very expensive to purchase on the internet, however I loaned a copy from the British Public Library system. Probably not available for loan from interested parties on your side of the pond.<br /><br />Chris Brown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-66012748062151966502011-02-24T22:33:31.961-08:002011-02-24T22:33:31.961-08:00It's truly amazing how garbled the facts have ...It's truly amazing how garbled the facts have become reading the comments above. Francis Marion was the highest paid screen writer, bar none, for over forty years. Fred Thomson was truly a Renaissance man. World class athlete, Princeton graduate, slide rule mind. He invented many of the Western movie tricks mathematically with an actual slide rule. All of the decorative elements were imported from Spain. Fred Kollsman embellished the estate with shopping expeditions to Schoenbrun Palace after WWII. Eighteenth century woodwork predominating. Although the previous comments on Mr. Bell’s grotesque response to the Thomson’s property purchase inquiry are correct. They build the estate in Beverly Hills, not Bel Air specifically because of Bell’s response. Bell, incidentally, changed his tune after the depression struck. The beauty of the estate was truly breathtaking. I lived at the property for over a month after the previous lessee had moved out (George Harrison) & although the main house was over 10,000 square feet it was extremely livable. Grand without feeling like one was living at Union Station. The furnishings were still those of Mr. Kollsman & his first wife, the Baroness. She died very young of cancer. She was very beautiful & tried her hand acting as Lulee Destee. Almost all of the comments missed the point. People attracted to Beverly Hills are, for the most part, new money. No knowledge of, or interest in, history. Other prospective purchasers of the estate (prior to Mr. Allen) all expressed that they would tear down the main house, with the exception of the Count of Venice. Old money builds or buys in Bel Air or Hombly Hills. Flashy (dare one say vulgar) new money in Beverly Hills. Read "Without Lying Down" by Cari Beauchamp or "More Than A Cowboy" by Edgar M. Wyatt if you really want to know more about this truly remarkable coupleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-6714387453250013242010-10-13T21:02:51.836-07:002010-10-13T21:02:51.836-07:00To Anonymous 8:55
The newly-widowed Frances sold ...To Anonymous 8:55<br /><br />The newly-widowed Frances sold the house at the right time, just before the Great Depression. She moved to a large house on Selma between Laurel Canyon and Fairfax. This house also was demolished, but you can see vintage photos of it in Architectural Digest. I read her biography a few years ago. Very interesting woman who had a long, prosperous career.<br /><br />Before it was demolished, some friends trespassed at Enchanted Hill while hiking in the hills,and they were amazed by its inherent beauty eventhough it had been vacant for a long time. (They didn't go inside.) I would have joined them, but I didn't get the call in time.Rosco Marenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-9275557383706267572010-10-10T10:15:58.597-07:002010-10-10T10:15:58.597-07:00The wasteful destruction of Enchanted Hill SICKENS...The wasteful destruction of Enchanted Hill SICKENS me. It has been written that Frances Marion sold the house with many treasures and furnishings she had obtained during her early days as a successful writer of silent films, keeping only the items she and Fred bought during their travels together. I’ve often wondered what happed to the furnishings of the home - were they bulldozed or salvaged? The thought of the tiles on the exterior of the home with Fred and Frances' coat of arms being pulverized makes me want to cry (or scream) with frustration. Might anyone out there know? (And thank you for your updates on this topic...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-38162819713981778332010-10-02T20:55:52.691-07:002010-10-02T20:55:52.691-07:00If you want to know what god thinks of money, look...If you want to know what god thinks of money, look at the people he gives it to - Lily Tomlin (I Think)The Right Reverand Buelah Franklinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-69282889240911791122010-09-29T12:06:58.525-07:002010-09-29T12:06:58.525-07:00Devastation of places like Enchanted Hill will con...Devastation of places like Enchanted Hill will continue in BH because "NO AUTHENTIC HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS WANTED". The city only wants the $$$ and think that if they deter the mindless nouveau riche and their faux palaces crowding out everything, they won't benefit. Even their Historic Commission is a sham as well as the Architectural Advisory Board. Folks continue to occupy these positions as they find it an easy way to troll for potential clients. The Doheny property Greystone is also under the egis of Parks & Rec who have like minded members feathering their own nests without any real credentials let alone concept of Historic Preservation and quality projects. Incredulous logic!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-31566540103539314622010-09-27T19:52:32.340-07:002010-09-27T19:52:32.340-07:00Thanks Carla Ridge. The property I am talking abo...Thanks Carla Ridge. The property I am talking about is here: http://tiny.cc/clkgj<br /><br />(the house on the promontory just to the lower left of the search address.)<br /><br />It's seems like it's been in progress at least 5 years at this point and looks close to being finished.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-28750270015349219572010-09-27T17:08:32.110-07:002010-09-27T17:08:32.110-07:00Horse stables with mahogony floors?! Talk about o...Horse stables with mahogony floors?! Talk about opulent! I can't believe Mr. Allen razed the place, and just left it that way. So sad that he tore down such a beautiful and historic home! <br /><br />Yes...too much money and nothing to do. <br /><br />Thanks too, to "'Lil Gay Boy." Always love to read your posts as well. :-)Jeannifiednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-87984253095481476392010-09-27T12:00:32.952-07:002010-09-27T12:00:32.952-07:00Anon 9:49, isn't Igor's new neighbor the d...<b>Anon 9:49,</b> isn't Igor's new neighbor the dubious Dr. Phil? I thought I recognized that hot mess...lil' gay boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10115496241247504856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-14078765518215266952010-09-27T09:49:44.915-07:002010-09-27T09:49:44.915-07:00Anonymous 4:13
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/ma...Anonymous 4:13<br /><br />http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/igor-greenbergs-house/view/?service=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-44298329425738892482010-09-27T03:09:19.336-07:002010-09-27T03:09:19.336-07:00Check out an old episode of Columbo called Double ...Check out an old episode of Columbo called Double Shock (1973) - its largely filmed at the Enchanted Hill Estate - (inside and out)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-53274133708377271242010-09-27T03:02:11.082-07:002010-09-27T03:02:11.082-07:00The whole Enchanted Hill story is fascinating. If ...The whole Enchanted Hill story is fascinating. If anyone wants to see a little more of the house, there is an episode of Columbo called Double shock (1973) which is largely filmed there, (interiors and exteriors). It seems that there was some interior alteration during the 60's and 70's however it's still quite wonderful. Interesting also that currently despite the almost complete obliteration of the property, one can still see the old entrance to the stables and a small part of the retaining wall to Fred's riding arena, as well as what looks like some remaining blue tiles where the swimming pool was and some of the front courtyard wall. Do I sound obsessed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-42304635154374921892010-09-26T16:13:12.019-07:002010-09-26T16:13:12.019-07:00I live off Benedict Canyon and always thought that...I live off Benedict Canyon and always thought that the massive house on top of the hill just east of Allen's residence was in fact Allen's residence. The address is 1420 Davies Drive...it is a monstrosity that looms over Benedict with it's massive retaining walls...anyone have a clue as to who lives there?<br /><br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-69749190082938742232010-09-25T21:09:20.922-07:002010-09-25T21:09:20.922-07:00Don't forget that he purchased an island near ...Don't forget that he purchased an island near SEATTLE that used to have a summer camp. After he purchased the island he kicked the kids out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-19414672479779906882010-09-25T19:58:51.141-07:002010-09-25T19:58:51.141-07:00Anonymous on 9/24 at 1:30 -- sorry I'm arrivin...Anonymous on 9/24 at 1:30 -- sorry I'm arriving at the soiree just as they're clearing the dessert dishes! I'm wondering if you don't mean the Michael Maltzan-designed residence for Michael Ovitz. It's the first house in the area fitting that description comes to mind, though it's way down Benedict Canyon (1200 block) rather than up at the summit of Angelo. <br /><br />While I'm at it, I'd like to borrow some o' Mama's head-smackin' incredulity thunder about Mssr. Allen tearing down a treasured residence, basically, for no reaason, to remind the children that some one else did the very same thing to nearby Falcon's Lair...former residence of Rudolph Valentino and later Doris Duke. Who ARE these people who have this ego-need to just... destroy? Why don't they just salt the earth, while they're at it?<br /><br />My secret word today, btw -- is: 'canon'. with no tilde, LOL.Carla Ridgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-49542325022845844742010-09-25T18:58:05.990-07:002010-09-25T18:58:05.990-07:00Considering how rich he is, his life is depressing...Considering how rich he is, his life is depressing. <br />I can't forgive destroying a piece of history, especially for no damn reason at all. <br />He is lost, buying mega mansions and yachts all over the place that he will never have any hope of every enjoying them all. <br /><br />I have always said it is better to be rich enough that you can get most of what you want but still have some hunger than be obscenely wealthy to the point where you can buy everything and are just bored.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-30188608831923598722010-09-25T15:51:09.489-07:002010-09-25T15:51:09.489-07:00Beware of Black Widows Paul, there is some strange...Beware of Black Widows Paul, there is some strange karma attached to The Enchanted Hill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-70689970906047162092010-09-25T06:08:30.008-07:002010-09-25T06:08:30.008-07:00Despite the old canard, it seems that you really c...Despite the old canard, it seems that you really can be too rich.aunt maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04610776580766775813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-19388288991457629112010-09-25T03:18:22.713-07:002010-09-25T03:18:22.713-07:00Paul Allen has owned Meduse since new. It was his ...Paul Allen has owned Meduse since new. It was his first large (>50 meters) yacht. I have toured her: she has a large cinema, the upper saloon can be transformed in a recording studio and she has helicopter landing facilities (like all his yachts. <br /><br />http://superyachtfan.blogspot.com<br /><br />(Can somebody teach me how to insert a link..... :) )Superyachtfanhttp://superyachtfan.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-51809675631695044352010-09-24T22:39:17.933-07:002010-09-24T22:39:17.933-07:00Glad I could help with the Teton Ridge Ranch prope...Glad I could help with the Teton Ridge Ranch property. It really is an amazing place, and yes it really is pretty far from everything. That is what makes it so special...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-56981228562867207362010-09-24T21:45:45.521-07:002010-09-24T21:45:45.521-07:00Oh yes, Eva, the Black Widow who succeeded Kollsma...Oh yes, Eva, the Black Widow who succeeded Kollsman was exactly that. Not that it did her much good...she died the miserable, wretched life of a consumate alcoholic user and abuser. Strange the similarities in some ways of Allen and Kollsman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com