tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post3723549985667758858..comments2023-11-05T01:14:14.295-07:00Comments on The Real Estalker: The Kaufmann House Goes On The BlockYour Mamahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14600002907755148264noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-55528884375963783282009-08-27T16:55:08.555-07:002009-08-27T16:55:08.555-07:00Any updates on this icon's having a new owner ...Any updates on this icon's having a new owner yet?<br /> Beth Harris deserves an "Restoration Artist / Producer" Oscar for this project. Supporting ones for Brent, Marmol-Radziner, & craftspeople.<br />Blessed with private tour shortly after finished, amazing!; & an experience I wish for others to have access to in future...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-47032461840815624362008-11-11T13:15:00.000-08:002008-11-11T13:15:00.000-08:00maria and i will move in there.111114maria and i will move in there.111114Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-5757132677505218432007-12-21T09:07:00.000-08:002007-12-21T09:07:00.000-08:00Oh my gawd - This is your Aunt Jennie formally of ...Oh my gawd - This is your Aunt Jennie formally of Ventura. Does this mean I'm famous for being mentioned in your news re: Barry Manilow????? Do I need to buy some bling, new duds and a new hair do? Give my love & kisses to Dr. Cooter and the babies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-19495428515355888732007-12-20T15:40:00.000-08:002007-12-20T15:40:00.000-08:00Love glass houses. This one's amazing. Have been f...Love glass houses. This one's amazing. Have been following and appreciating it for sooo long. It is art.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-73809359103318485002007-12-20T12:41:00.000-08:002007-12-20T12:41:00.000-08:00This would be a good house for David Geffen.....if...This would be a good house for David Geffen.....if he wants a house in Palm Springs.<BR/><BR/>Windy location that also loses the sun by 3:30 in the afternoon.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I would rather have a great view, in a golf course community like Bighorn or the Vintage Club.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-91302715842292949992007-12-20T12:12:00.000-08:002007-12-20T12:12:00.000-08:00This house makes my mouth wather. I know nothing a...This house makes my mouth wather. I know nothing about Palm Springs, so maybe it is not in such a desireable location, but the lines of the place are amazing. And that setting. Wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-59886399802770782542007-12-20T09:55:00.000-08:002007-12-20T09:55:00.000-08:00Beth Harris spent years tracking down the original...Beth Harris spent years tracking down the original Neutra furniture and returning it to the house. Somebody needs to get ahold of a copy of the auction catalog and see if all that is included in the sale too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-41186238086353866702007-12-20T09:49:00.000-08:002007-12-20T09:49:00.000-08:00anon 12:32, You could, but it wouldn't be a Neutra...anon 12:32, <BR/><BR/>You could, but it wouldn't be a Neutra (and arguably his most famous commission to boot). I could buy a piece of land and build a duplicate of the White House but it wouldn't be the same either. <BR/><BR/>Iconic homes by famous architects are actually art. They aren't for us "regular" people and a lot of them aren't principal residences.<BR/><BR/>The Harrises just used this house as a weekend place. Their "real" house is in Orange County (maybe Newport Beach?). <BR/><BR/>I know of a John Lautner that sold to a young [non-celebrity] couple who had recently come into a lot of money. They bought it to live in and because the could afford the multi-million dollar price tag. They had no idea that what they really bought was a museum piece and kept calling the former owners looking for help and advice. I will give them credit that they learned how to care for the house and own it to this day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-60165108554445302962007-12-20T00:32:00.000-08:002007-12-20T00:32:00.000-08:00Nice house but not my cup of tea.Here's my questio...Nice house but not my cup of tea.<BR/><BR/>Here's my question though, couldn't you just buy a few acres of desert land and build your own version of this house for a helluva lot less?<BR/><BR/>Even if house is 5,000 sq feet, at $15 Million you're paying $3,000 per sq foot. Unless it's built out of gold it's hard to imagine the building materials justifying that cost. As for it's Neutra provenance, if it's been so abused by the succession of tasteless owners that it had to torn down to the studs, aren't you effectively just buying a new house?<BR/><BR/>I guess that's why I don't have the bank to afford these kinds of high highfalutin' digs, I just don't have the taste to appreciate it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-54475362741531922782007-12-20T00:09:00.000-08:002007-12-20T00:09:00.000-08:00The setting is stunning.The setting is stunning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-55260974105038837332007-12-19T22:39:00.000-08:002007-12-19T22:39:00.000-08:00I think the Getty museum should buy it. Not as a ...I think the Getty museum should buy it. Not as a display piece, but as a money making venture; it reminds me of the Sunoco stations from my youth. They could pump gas out front and do minor repairs inside. It not only reunite the Getty name with it's heritage, but also bring a few bucks in to maintain the museum.<BR/><BR/>I like modern art, but I see nothing that exciting about this place. That is just MHO and it is based on personal taste, not formal training.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-43189925861081065582007-12-19T20:33:00.000-08:002007-12-19T20:33:00.000-08:00I agree the pictures don't do it justice, but then...I agree the pictures don't do it justice, but then that iconic black & white photo at sunset cannot be beat - the light was fading fast and the exposure took forever, but produced one of the finest architectural renderings in history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-328812255587310262007-12-19T18:37:00.000-08:002007-12-19T18:37:00.000-08:00^^check the source...the photos seem to be by Tim ...^^check the source...the photos seem to be by Tim Street-PorterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-87987814859083266252007-12-19T18:22:00.000-08:002007-12-19T18:22:00.000-08:00So Chic, the new pavilion is situated so you can s...So Chic, the new pavilion is situated so you can sit with martini in hand with the exact same view as the famous Julius Shulman photo of the house... The black & white photo at dusk with Mrs. Kaufmann reclining next to the pool to diffuse the light from the pool light.<BR/><BR/>The photos Mama found don't do the house justice. Mrs. Harris said she didn't want anyone other than Shulman to photograph the house (although I have seen some post-restoration photos by Tim Street-Porter). <BR/><BR/>Maybe as we get closer to the auction there will be some better photos in circulation. The house is truly a piece of art.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-34144647544135379792007-12-19T18:14:00.000-08:002007-12-19T18:14:00.000-08:00^ Thanks, hippie canyon. For personal reasons, you...^ Thanks, hippie canyon. For personal reasons, your excoriating putdown of PS made me smile. Very nice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-45906089972966136382007-12-19T17:57:00.000-08:002007-12-19T17:57:00.000-08:00Marmol & Radziner do some of the most beautiful ho...Marmol & Radziner do some of the most beautiful homes, from simple to grand. I love there work. Funny. I hate this house. Is it just me or does the satellite shot look like a swaztika? I'm just saying. I for one wouldn't buy anything other than a nice big dirty martini in PS, and a tank of gas to get the hell out of Dodge. The only thing that sucks more than PS is Ms.Spears. I mean, unless your going to some Rainbow Suite/All-Nude No-tell-Ho!tell, why bother going at all? Its a truly UNattractive town full of old folks wearing sweaters in 105 degree heat, and nice gay decorators in their Carrera cabriolets throwing attitude and caution to the wind. Why baa-thuh...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-1604071129500349122007-12-19T15:42:00.000-08:002007-12-19T15:42:00.000-08:00I absolutely love this place - it's simply stunnin...I absolutely love this place - it's simply stunning but I wish I could just pick it up & move it to L.A [well, 1st I would need the cash!]<BR/><BR/>I totally agree with you Mama about the possible buyers ... Maybe now Ellen has sold her Montecito place she's looking for a new weekend place other than her San Ysidro ranch ... who knows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-75783688281399582182007-12-19T14:45:00.000-08:002007-12-19T14:45:00.000-08:00That landscaping is delish. Pity we can't have mor...That landscaping is delish. Pity we can't have more interior pics, but I would love to live there. <BR/><BR/>I went on a Palm Springs bus tour (I'm a furriner, we're allowed) and there were several houses pointed out as ex Manilow residences. According to the tour guide, Bazza buys up doer-upers and works on them himself. One of them gave him a bit of a breakdown, due to the stress. Wonder if it was this one?ms_wonderlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04920743891556888007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-37430577176532586982007-12-19T13:58:00.000-08:002007-12-19T13:58:00.000-08:00There's only one thing I like better than a viewin...There's only one thing I like better than a viewing pavilion,and that's a drinks pavilion!<BR/> As for the asking price,well what is art worth?in an age where a painting selling at auction for over a hundred million is no longer big news.It seems like a deal!so_chic_darlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00295857652423777633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-57462516785464977482007-12-19T13:56:00.000-08:002007-12-19T13:56:00.000-08:00Oh, Mama, can I please borrow $15M - I'll pay you ...Oh, Mama, can I please borrow $15M - I'll pay you back, I swear!<BR/><BR/>I've loved this house since I was knee-high to Big Gay Decorator, although I always wondered what the Boulder House, the one Frank Lloyd Wright did design for this site (in an attempt to steal the commission) would have looked like here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-58001770473457337512007-12-19T13:41:00.000-08:002007-12-19T13:41:00.000-08:00I *love* this place. If money just didn't matter, ...I *love* this place. If money just didn't matter, I would buy it.<BR/><BR/>There are so many people for whom money isn't an issue, a place as unique and special as this will find a buyer.<BR/><BR/>I just love it. Damn I made the wrong career choice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-61693999091697591372007-12-19T13:32:00.000-08:002007-12-19T13:32:00.000-08:00And if any one was wondering, the name "Kaufmann H...And if any one was wondering, the name "Kaufmann House" comes for the original owner Edgar Kaufmann, the same department store magnate as the Frank Lloyd Wright designed Fallingwater in Pennsylvania.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-76705614631568423552007-12-19T13:24:00.000-08:002007-12-19T13:24:00.000-08:00The house is magnificent. I was lucky enough to to...The house is magnificent. I was lucky enough to tour it a couple of years ago with Beth Harris explaining the restoration work.<BR/><BR/>The original whispers around Palm Springs (before the auction announcement) were it could be purchased for 20m and supposedly Brad Pitt was among those who considered buying it. <BR/><BR/>I always heard the 1.5m price but maybe that was the asking price and they got it for less. <BR/><BR/>The Harris' bought 4-5 additional properties around it to recreate the sense of the house sitting in open desert. I believe the tennis court originally belonged to an adjoining property. I don't know what they paid for all the additional land but I assume that is part of the sale.<BR/><BR/>The building you see in between the tennis court and the pool is a new M+R design. A large portion of it is a bar/entertainment pavilion with disappearing walls. There is also a gym and bathroom in the new building.<BR/><BR/>I remember at least 4 bedrooms (including staff) in the house, and if they count the gym as a bedroom that would make 5. I don't remember how many baths.<BR/><BR/>I hope the house does end up in the hands of someone who loves it as much as the Harrises and also continues to open it for fundraisers and charitable functions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-61125838203327312862007-12-19T13:16:00.000-08:002007-12-19T13:16:00.000-08:00It's not my style at all, but it is a beeyotiful h...It's not my style at all, but it is a beeyotiful house.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-43635031201754349472007-12-19T12:57:00.000-08:002007-12-19T12:57:00.000-08:00It's clever of Christie's to include this in a sal...It's clever of Christie's to include this in a sale of post-war art -- by positioning real estate as <I>art</I>, the auction house actually makes the estimate sound reasonable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com