tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post1386059514488432454..comments2023-11-05T01:14:14.295-07:00Comments on The Real Estalker: The Singleton ResidenceYour Mamahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14600002907755148264noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-30408029249128346542008-02-04T16:58:00.000-08:002008-02-04T16:58:00.000-08:00This is for all the idiots with the negative comme...This is for all the idiots with the negative comments. You don't know what you're talking about. This is the ultimate Mansion! HUUUUGE! Music room. Library. 10 Bedrooms, all with master baths. Marble floors. French doors. Chandeliers. Fountain. Winding staircase. Tennis court. Swimming pool (got plenty of sun) Pillars. Verandas. Balconies. Giant back yard with a Koi fish pond. Servants quarters. Greenhouse. The WORKS! They just don't make 'em like this anymore. CLASSIC! I've been there. I stayed there many, many times when I was a kid in High School. I was in a band with one of the sons and was lucky enough to stay there almost every weekend. It was like being a rock star without being famous. When you're behind those gates, truly a secluded PARADISE! Made the Beverly Hillbillies pad look like a guest house! Someone needs to buy and preserve this place! Where's the Donald when we need him? J.P.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-1701497466950734832008-01-24T13:44:00.000-08:002008-01-24T13:44:00.000-08:00I hope they keep the mural.I hope they keep the mural.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-65670657803369112982008-01-23T08:19:00.000-08:002008-01-23T08:19:00.000-08:00Bentley, since it's been in the Bradley family for...Bentley, since it's been in the Bradley family for over 100 years, few if any photos are available of the interior, save for those used in movies.<BR/><BR/>This site:<BR/>http://www.ligoldcoast.com/index.html<BR/>Has links to some other Long Island Gold Coast mansions, although there isn't even an exterior view of Knole on it.<BR/><BR/>House and its 36 acres were sold to a developer in 2004 for $11M (taxes are $139,000/yr.) He hopes to subdivide it and hopefully will not tear it down as the zoning is for 4 acres in this area.<BR/><BR/>Still, to crowd this treasure onto 4 acres is a crime, but better than a tear down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-34485706219626405622008-01-23T07:02:00.000-08:002008-01-23T07:02:00.000-08:00LGB - Whitemarsh Hall... Love it, except for the ...LGB - Whitemarsh Hall... Love it, except for the columns, although they do fit the scale and proportion of the house beautifully. I just don't like columns. <BR/><BR/>Do you know where I can find interior pics of Knole? <BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>bAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-70878997538019995022008-01-22T22:14:00.000-08:002008-01-22T22:14:00.000-08:00Anon 9:49, thanks for the info!Bentley, Whitemarsh...Anon 9:49, thanks for the info!<BR/><BR/>Bentley, Whitemarsh Hall was my post to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-6295716535544293672008-01-22T21:28:00.000-08:002008-01-22T21:28:00.000-08:00Bentley, isn't it a crime what they did to Whitema...Bentley, isn't it a crime what they did to Whitemarsh Hall, Trumbauer's estate for the Stotesbury family?<BR/><BR/>Now that was one FANTASTIC estate!<BR/><BR/>It's now covered with pseudo saltboxes and wretched contemporaries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-74070093508754141622008-01-22T11:49:00.000-08:002008-01-22T11:49:00.000-08:00I used to park my car in the same zip code as Cher...I used to park my car in the same zip code as Cher.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-87578808775500298622008-01-22T10:58:00.000-08:002008-01-22T10:58:00.000-08:00As long as we're dropping our names and pedigree, ...As long as we're dropping our names and pedigree, my mother briefly owned the former John Lennon estate in Palm Beach in the late 1980's, lol...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-43962757494275985742008-01-22T09:49:00.000-08:002008-01-22T09:49:00.000-08:00LGB,Not sure who the original owner was but the ho...LGB,<BR/><BR/>Not sure who the original owner was but the house was designed by Robert Farquhar and built in 1936. By the 40's it was owned by Joseph Schenck (United Artists, 20th Century Fox, one of the founders of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-38556659327894653742008-01-22T09:14:00.000-08:002008-01-22T09:14:00.000-08:00Haunted, haunted haunted!Haunted, haunted haunted!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-34247557197461220752008-01-22T06:27:00.000-08:002008-01-22T06:27:00.000-08:00LGB - I didn't realize that Clarendon Court was ev...LGB - I didn't realize that Clarendon Court was ever considered as the shooting location for the movie. I sincerely doubt the Randall's (as art dealers/friends of the von Auersperg children and the guy who bought the hose off them) would have allowed it anyway. <BR/><BR/>True, CC is not as grand as many Bellevue Ave. estates, but to quote one old Newport bag (old guard, howdoyoudo sort of thing), "Sunny von Bulow took the most boring house in Newport and turned it into a masterpiece." It was. <BR/><BR/>I love Horace Trumbauer's work. The staircase in CC alone is swoon worthy. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately you can't see the house from Cliff Walk. Sunny's obsession with privacy led her to have the section of Cliff Walk that leads past the house built under their lawn! Like PCH's comment about old Hollywood, the Astor's, Vanerbilt's and Duke's didn't feel the need for such tactics. <BR/><BR/>Doris was a wretched driver, and had the hugest station wagon! She always brought the Llama's in out of the rain, though. A very sweet person... Despise her house, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-84801679590197882162008-01-22T00:04:00.000-08:002008-01-22T00:04:00.000-08:00Chilruns, for whom was Owlwood originally built?Chilruns, for whom was Owlwood originally built?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-7005355207337728882008-01-21T22:57:00.000-08:002008-01-21T22:57:00.000-08:00Hey 10:34 -- I can remember how weird it was to dr...Hey 10:34 -- I can remember how weird it was to drive around the bend on Sunset and not see the big pink house anymore.<BR/><BR/>I have way too much time on my hands when I can sit around and google this shit, but I did find this notation in a Telegraph (UK newspaper) article from January, 2001: "Sothebys is selling Owlwood, a six-bedroom Tuscan-style mansion for around £29 million." Exchange rate back then wasn't so terrible, so an asking price maybe in the $50 million range? <BR/><BR/>And it sounds like you were on the right track about two of the three being already attached -- an estate manager reports at his blog that 141 S Carolwood (Owlwood) and 10060 Sunset (the Esther Williams house) were combined in 1982, the latter house demolished in 2002, and both properties sold in 2003. This might be the $30 million figure Sandpiper found. Plus whatever Humperdinck got for the pink palace, like you suggest.<BR/><BR/>I don't know why I'm stuck on the $65 million figure as an asking price for everything -- sounds like I'm wrong. Or maybe they floated it momentarily and then re-listed for the lower sum you remember.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-29595092682881532862008-01-21T22:34:00.000-08:002008-01-21T22:34:00.000-08:00PCH & Sandpiper, If memory serves, Owlwood and the...PCH & Sandpiper, <BR/><BR/>If memory serves, Owlwood and the third house (I never knew it was a Gordon B. Kaufmann, only heard it was once owned by Ester Williams) had already been combined into one compund prior to the most recent sale.<BR/> <BR/>Engelbert Humperdinck was the seller of the "Pink Palace", the former home of Jane Mansfield (also Mama Cass, Ringo Starr and others).<BR/><BR/>I seem to remember the Owlwood compound being listed for 40m and the Pink Palace for 5-6m. They actually advertised them as "buy both and get the city to let you close the street". The Pink Palace and Ester Williams house have both been torn down to make a larger "lawn" for Owlwood. I heard (not sure if true)the buyer was the president of Ameriquest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-56478420254317206862008-01-21T21:52:00.000-08:002008-01-21T21:52:00.000-08:00It's all good, Sandpiper. I'm sure the sale you se...It's all good, Sandpiper. I'm sure the sale you see is the one -- there are only three houses on the street (a small cul-de-sac between the Los Angeles Country Club and Sunset Boulevard) and it's been closed off to the public since the buyer took possession of all three...in effect, S Carolwood no longer exists.<BR/><BR/>LGB, beyond the fact that Owlwood was owned at some point by Tony Curtis, then Sonny and Cher (when it was published by AD), I can't offer much more than to say the Italian influence on its architecture is a lot more Pasadena/San Marino than Holmby Hills/Beverly Hills. In other words, it's better than the Westside norm.<BR/><BR/>Also, I dig it when someone puts an important piece of art in an unexpected or unlikely place, a la the Whitney Van Gogh. Great story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-39772933528658132242008-01-21T21:32:00.000-08:002008-01-21T21:32:00.000-08:00Oops, that's 200 Community Drive, Manhasset, NY - ...Oops, that's 200 Community Drive, Manhasset, NY - not 270 (my bad!)<BR/><BR/>Anon 9:22 - tell us about Albert and his antics. Would <I>love</I> to hear some . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-10936283442502119282008-01-21T21:22:00.000-08:002008-01-21T21:22:00.000-08:00And my famiy's home was frequented by Einstein. Yo...And my famiy's home was frequented by Einstein. Your point is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-87186890691862227402008-01-21T21:12:00.000-08:002008-01-21T21:12:00.000-08:00Thanks, PCH - it's nice to know someone "gets" me....Thanks, PCH - it's nice to know someone "gets" me. Tell us more about Owlwood; it's always fascinated me.<BR/><BR/>And no, I never thought poor Doris Duke was anything other than a lonely, confused and ultimately tragic figure, from the time her stepmother left the windows open in the bitter cold in their Manhattan mansion to let her husband, Doris' beloved father, freeze to death; to her ultimate seclusion by a disloyal chauffeur who bilked her of millions.<BR/><BR/>As for the tragedy outside of Rough Point, although she did quarrel with her confidante that day, the coroner ruled the incident was an accident, as it very well may have been (Doris was a notoriously poor driver).<BR/><BR/>And finally, as for "name dropping," Betsey and my Nana belonged to the same garden club and that's it; she was gracious enough to host their meetings at Greentree, and my Nana would tell me wonderful stories of this beautiful Dutch Colonial on 400+ acres in Manhasset (270 Community Drive for you Google Earthers).<BR/><BR/>As a member of the New York State Preservation League, I was once invited to a luncheon on the estate - by this time Betsey was in poor health and, although the official hostess, didn't not attend, leaving those duties to Emil, the head butler. After a 15 minute walk to the Palm Conservatory/Greenhouse where the pet alligators were kept, we were invited to tour the first floor of the main house; in a small hallway between the living room and the library hung Van Gogh's self portrait (the one <I>with</I> the ear), almost as an afterthought.<BR/><BR/>One of my fondest memories, and it was only when I got home did I discover that the film in my camera had broken, and I was left with only one sole picture of the entry court.<BR/><BR/>No public photos exist of the interior, to my knowledge, and one can only find aerial photographs of the estate. I used to work in an office building that backed up to a corner of the property, and had the great good fortune of a view of it from my office window.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-78227497447273544012008-01-21T21:04:00.000-08:002008-01-21T21:04:00.000-08:00PCH. I can only address what I found. I respect Ma...PCH. I can only address what I found. I respect Mama's regard for avoiding steet numbers, or else I would have freely shared these details.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-8666681420142578712008-01-21T20:59:00.000-08:002008-01-21T20:59:00.000-08:00I was a student at westlake school for girls (down...I was a student at westlake school for girls (down the street) in 1969 when they were building this house. it was very very grand, they brought in the trees in HUGE crates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-2058959210605772142008-01-21T20:48:00.000-08:002008-01-21T20:48:00.000-08:00I,m waiting for the call.I'm thinking Restoration ...I,m waiting for the call.I'm thinking Restoration Hardware budget at least,right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-35391108315230579502008-01-21T20:36:00.000-08:002008-01-21T20:36:00.000-08:00Sandpiper -- 2003 sounds about right -- and your f...Sandpiper -- 2003 sounds about right -- and your figure is close to this info I found this at a bio page for someone called Drew Mandile: "Another notable achievement with partner Brooke Knapp was the self-sale of Owlwood and adjoining estates of South Carolwood Drive. Combined to create a ten-acre estate, the $35 million record sale also included the former Jane Mansfield estate, built in 1928 by Rudee Vallee, and its neighbor, the first home in Holmby Hills built by the Janss brothers developers and designed by Gordon Kaufmann." What a bargain, especially if the true sale price were the $30 million figure you found. I could swear it was advertised at more than double that.<BR/><BR/>LGB, almost nothing as pleasantly surreal as a stroll along the Cliff Walk...and, boy, do you draw the haters out of the woodwork.<BR/><BR/>7:32, I've read many posts from LGB on the topic of old houses -- this is the first time I can recall his mentioning a <I>personal</I> connection. And honestly, if he were trying to impress everyone by dropping the name of some grand person he didn't actually know, he wouldn't be offering Betsey Whitney -- of all people -- and certainly not in the context of a friendship with his " dear Nana."<BR/><BR/>7:50, maybe the same commenter as 7:32? I don't think LGB implied Doris Duke wasn't a good woman -- just that a gruesome incident at her front gate adds to the gothic vibe of Rough Point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-19834259393561940352008-01-21T19:50:00.000-08:002008-01-21T19:50:00.000-08:00you know nothing about doris. she was a good woman...you know nothing about doris. she was a good woman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-1565326941948636962008-01-21T19:32:00.000-08:002008-01-21T19:32:00.000-08:00little boy drops the names but does not know...little boy drops the names but does not know...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7179311615101890268.post-20284734286235111822008-01-21T18:25:00.000-08:002008-01-21T18:25:00.000-08:00No,no NEVER!Get off my property.No,no NEVER!Get off my property.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com